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Smooth braid

#1
Probably done to death but, most of us aren't fishing anyway so....

I use PowerPro, for flood water ledgering, and for rolling meat (with a mono leader). Yeah, it's fine...but just bought a 'Rolling Pin' (been using a Lewtham Sidecast) and want the best, (and hopefully smoother?) braid possible to go on it. PowerPro Slick? Berkeley stuff? I've heard SO many contrasting reviews (e.g. Fireline : "Best braid ever" to "Absolute rubbish" etc etc) and so trying to get a firm 'handle' on it.
So, what do I put on my Rolling Pin?? Thoughts?

ATBA
 
#5
Cheers Gra...it seems like the natural choice after using PP regular, but I just wanted some input before buying (cheap it ain't) a load.
ATVB
 

Jon Frisby

Senior Member
#6
I have looked tried to find a better braid than PP super 8 slick and i cant. Knots and casts brilliantly, i am still using the same spool I maybe put on 4 year's ago. The colours aren't great, but does it matter when using a leader etc.
 
#7
Cheers Jon, I value your opinion...many thanks.
ATVB
 
#8
I've been using the super 8 for a few years now and as with Graham and Jon have found it excellent.
Hunting around to find a good supplier at reasonable prices continues to frustrate me though.
 
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I've been trying Berkeley professional grade braid & its pretty good stuff, I can't get on with the super slick colours. I tried the Suffix 832 & the colour washes out straight away.. In fairness the original PP isn't bad. I've got a spool of super slick stuck in a bucket of dye as we speak :)
I'm trying the Nash NXT bullet braid but I haven't used it yet so the jury's out on that.
 
#12
I use braid more or less all the time, mainly for trotting, so it has to be smooth. Best I've found is Fox Jigsilk.
It's bright yellow, which I like as it's easy to see for mending and it doesn't fur up like a lot of braid, fireline in particular.
Advertised as sinking, it isn't.
Around £15 for 150 yards.
 
#13
Another vote for super slik. I've just changed from a Lewtham Quest as well, Terry. The Rolling Pin is better quality, however the smaller size isn't great. Will stick with it, though. I use a soft rod rather than a leader.
 
#14
One I have heard good things about is the Guru pulse braid. I have had a peek and it looks v good. If i was float fishing braid I would certainly have a look at it.
I personally only use braid for leger feeder use so I can't really comment on float fishing too much.
As I have been weather bound for the past few weeks I have been tweaking my gear, moving from black amnesia leaders to Sunline fluorocarbon leaders. Knots are the major issue with tying leaders of any type. I have mostly used the Albright 7 up and 5 down, which works great with super 8 and practically any other leader. Where other braids fail is when tying the Albright, it just doest like it as the knot can part well under the stated B.S.. I have used the FG knot which takes some practice and that's v good for all braids, but a mare to tie. I have found one that's a lot easier to tie with the same results and that's the FG knot substitute/alternative.
Just something to think about when braid fishing.

 
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Jon,

A couple of questions if I may?

I was with our Dutch friend every step ‘till he started adding the half hitches! Do you think the knot needs ‘em ?

The leader, you say you have switched over to Flouro, is this for better abrasion resist or lower visibility?

Regards

Bill
 
#16
I've given up on knots for joining the nylon to braid, most knots seem to be for joining thick nylon to thin braid. I use a small swivel and attach the braid and hooklength to that, float or ledger. Most commonly used hooklink 0.013mm Reflo powerline on the float, 8lb drennan series 7 0.25mm ledgering.
Most practical knot for tying the braid to the swivel is a palomar, roughly 70% of B.S.
 
#17
Jon,

A couple of questions if I may?

I was with our Dutch friend every step ‘till he started adding the half hitches! Do you think the knot needs ‘em ?

The leader, you say you have switched over to Flouro, is this for better abrasion resist or lower visibility?

Regards

Bill
I haven't used it in anger yet,
Jon,

A couple of questions if I may?

I was with our Dutch friend every step ‘till he started adding the half hitches! Do you think the knot needs ‘em ?

The leader, you say you have switched over to Flouro, is this for better abrasion resist or lower visibility?

Regards

Bill
Hi Bill, I personally haven't used the knot for fishing yet but have rigged up all my rods with it in readiness. I actually tied the knot 10 times with 30lb super 8 slick to 25lb sunline fluoro leader and every time i tested it, it was far stronger than any other knot I had tied. So much so that I struggled to break it. So i tried it with 25lb Kastking braid which hates the Albright and again it was solid. I did notice when tightening down once that the fluoro knot did move slightly, so I tightened the knot fully and carried on with 4 alternate hitches, cut the fluoro tag end tight and finished with 2 double half hitches.
I have switched to fluoro leader for fishing low clear water and the abrasion resistance that comes with it.
I have always fished a black amnesia leader to No obvious negatives even on the smaller yorkshire rivers.
The adage of Why change a good thing... or if it's not broke why fix it?
Well I have a little plan in mind and I'm always looking for the odd edge and this I hope may put some more fish on the bank.
 
#18
Thank you Jon, thanks for letting me learn from your experiments and experience. I’ve not used braid with a leader before so on an acute learning curve. Fair to say i’ve not tied a leader since the ‘70’s when I used to do a bit of beach casting.... I lie! I did use a short rubbing leader on the Wye this year due to cut offs in the low water....that being my only dabble!!