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shimano 4000d

Yes bought two in Florida recently and used for the first time last week. Perfect size for my barbel rods, good build quality, line lay and great clutch. Agree that spare spool is pricey at £35.
 
The only minor let down is the line clip. For a £100+ reel it should be better.
 
is the baitrunner , when on, really quiet? Someone told me it was hard to hear when engaged and a fish tears off, dunno if thats true or not, cheers
 
Chris Thomson said:
is the baitrunner , when on, really quiet? Someone told me it was hard to hear when engaged and a fish tears off, dunno if thats true or not, cheers
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Hi Chris the Baitrunner is quiet, however i cant do a comparison as its the first baitrunner i have used. In all a good reel, the drag is excellent,but IMO not suitable for anything above the Swale in size, which makes it good for about 90% of rivers. I would use it on the Trent but only in normal conditions.
 
So Jon, does that mean that for the trent the 6000d or 8000d would be the reel to use?? Is it just the size which is the restriction??

Has anyone seen how much bigger the 6000d is??
 
The nice thing about the 4000D is that (apart from the front drag) it's fairly light at 385g -(lighter than the old 3500 B which is around the weight of the 6000D at 570g. The capacities and weights are approximately as follows:

4000 D 385g 200yds of 10lb
6000 D 570g 265yds 12lb
8000 D 610g 250yds 17lb

Weight wise not much between the 6000 and 8000.

Cheers
Bob
 
Ian Crook said:
So Jon, does that mean that for the trent the 6000d or 8000d would be the reel to use?? Is it just the size which is the restriction??

Has anyone seen how much bigger the 6000d is??
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IIRC the 6000D is a fair bit bigger, it also has a big round ball for a handle which puts me right off. I had considered one (or an 8000D) for the limited carping that I do on relatively small waters, if I found a pair at a bargain price. My reservations about the Ds are their limitations with regards long casts. This has nothing to do with the size of the reel body or their line capacities. I'd have no problem with a 4000/5000/6000 sized reel (non-big pit sizes) provided that they had a relatively shallow (for braid use) and long nosed spool. I want the benefit that a long nosed spool brings in terms of distance and ease of casting. The snag with the D spools is that they are relatively narrow and deep for their size.

The snag with my wants for a big river (and occasional carping) reel are either very hard to find or a stupid price. I guess that either I'm pretty much alone in my aspirations or the reel manufacturers are missing a trick. There are a few reels that come close but nothing that really fits the bill. I'd love something along the lines of an SS2600 with a shallow spool and baitrunner facility/quick drag. A Shimano Ultegra XS-B 4500 with a shallow spool would also tickle my fancy. I hope I'll find something that fits the bill, without breaking the bank, sometime soon.
 
Ian Crook said:
So Jon, does that mean that for the trent the 6000d or 8000d would be the reel to use?? Is it just the size which is the restriction??

Has anyone seen how much bigger the 6000d is??
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Ian I'm using a pair of 8000D's on the Trent this season & they seem fine..But time will tell especially when it's tramming thru:)
 
Yes Ian the next size up for sure, as Steve says only time will tell. From my experience, you need a decent sized spool, excellent cranking power and a very good front drag system. I dont use a baitrunner so i cannot comment on that.
Thats only if you fish the Trent regularly, if its just the odd occasion the 4000D should suffice.
Chris, i know the handle on the 8000D is different, but its made that way for its ergonomic qualities, and it come's from high end fixed spool sea fishing reels from shimano, like Steve says time will tell. I can also see where you are coming from in finding a reel to suit your needs; i went through loads, but still came to buy a high end reel for the Trent.

Jon
 
Jon Frisby said:
Chris, i know the handle on the 8000D is different, but its made that way for its ergonomic qualities, and it come's from high end fixed spool sea fishing reels from shimano
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Jon,
I've heard the spiel and had a play. The reality didn't match the hype for me. I found it to be quite unnatural and quite uncomfortable. However, I will concede that I felt the same way when I initially moved on from the tiny little handles that most reels had in the eighties and early nineties.:eek:;)
 
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