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Reality Check for the "I want"ers

Paul Boote

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Someone, it appears, thinks along at least some of the lines that I do (and have often been pilloried for for the past decade) - from the Times' Angling Correspondent, Brian Clarke, yesterday -



The Times, May 3, 2010

Martin Salter’s exit poses questions of Trust

Brian Clarke


Whatever the result of Thursday’s election, angling is going to come out of it the poorer in at least one respect. With the departure from frontline politics of Martin Salter, Labour MP for Reading West, fishing and shooting — but especially fishing — have lost the most committed and effective political campaigner they have had.

Salter, who held the seat since 1997 and who has been his party’s spokesman on both sports for the past eight years, had a better reason than some for deciding to retire. He came out of the expenses scandal squeaky clean. His aim is, he says, simply to find new challenges and “to spend more time with my wife, my camper van and my fish, in that order”. By “his fish” Salter means, in particular, the chub and barbel of the River Kennet in Berkshire and the roach of the Hampshire Avon. He is a formidable performer when pursuing all three — especially when long-trotting a float with the 19ft wrist-breaker of a rod he uses. But it is his performance away from the water that has brought him plaudits and respect from all sides.

A private dinner to mark his contribution was sponsored by the Salmon and Trout Association (S&TA), the British Association for Shooting and Conservation, and the Angling Trust (AT). Labour’s Fisheries Minister was there. So was the Conservatives’ Shadow Fisheries Minister.

Amid other, wide-ranging activities, Salter has made significant contributions to the fights against over-abstraction of groundwater, pollution and habitat degradation. He was key in getting measures to control cormorants into law. He fought for provisions in the Marine and Coastal Access Act that created protection zones for juvenile sport fish such as bass. He pressed for vigorous implementation of the Water Framework Directive. He was a driving force behind the creation of the AT.

As Salter wades into the political sunset, however, the S&TA and the AT still have plenty to do, the AT especially. The trust has a list of challenges as long as a match-angler’s pole. That list includes programmes to promote angling and anglers’ rights, to fight over-abstraction, to prosecute polluters, to reduce predation and — a growing specific concern — to try to ensure that planned hydropower installations are designed in a fish-friendly way.

The AT’s most important challenge, though, is simply to survive. It emerged, overblown and overambitious, from the ruins of the sport’s individual bodies and soon had to shrink to match resource to funding.

By that time, however, it had developed measured responses to the social, political and environmental issues the sport confronts, recognising that the future of angling rests on the support of public opinion, that this support cannot be taken for granted and that the building of alliances in politics and the wider conservation movement are vital.

Then, underfunded and under-resourced, the trust became the target of angling’s “we want action now” lobby — a lobby that, impatient with present leaders and frustrated with the damage otters and cormorants are doing to some fisheries, confuses wish list with practicality and shouting louder with effectiveness.

The recent demand by this group that PR experts be hired to gain access to government and get unspecified “action on predators” is revealing. It is not access that is the problem, as Salter’s dinner showed. The problem is the message.

While something more might be possible on cormorant control, ministers can deliver nothing that will reduce the impact of otters in any significant way. The otter, with the support of the overwhelming majority of anglers, has complete physical protection.

What angling needs is not expensive PR but a greater awareness of the wider world. The sport’s big weakness is not its leadership but the apathy of its millions, only a handful of whom will contribute to anything not immediately under their rod-tops. A second is that whatever urgent problems angling might face, the sport is not the centre of everyone else’s universe. A third is that angling is not the only activity with a claim on the countryside and a willingness to defend it.

A fourth is that if the public were ever pushed to choose between — for example — the welfare of otters and the delirium of fishermen, the result would be a no-brainer.

To make these points is not to suggest that the AT’s presentation could not be improved. Yes, the AT is imperfect and yes, management styles may not always suit everyone. But this trust, seriously and responsibly led by whomever, offers the best chance of progress the sport has had.

To force it to abandon measured response, to nudge it towards anything that might be regarded as the extremes, would be to put naivety into the driving seat, reduce credibility, sever political access and put angling on a collision course with its allies, painstakingly won. And what kind of PR triumph would that be?

Brian Clarke’s angling column appears on the first Monday of each month.
 
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"Someone, it appears, thinks along at least some of the lines that I do" (and have often been pilloried for for the past decade) Come on


Paul....your not that special in thinking that way, a few others do as well! :D

Good article

Cheers
Jason
 
Maybe. But I was the first to go relentlessly public about it (indeed, several years before Mr Clarke was marching with the Countryside Alliance for "liberty" (?) through London). First to take the outrage and all the poo, too.
 
Paul, its not necessarily that I disgree with what you say/write because your opinions often mirror mine and many others,
BUT the way that you present them, is not thought provoking, rather just pure condescending and belittling.... Yes you do gain responses but I'd say 90% of the time mere mindless numpties like myself actually lose the point being by yourself.:rolleyes:
 
Fine by me if you think that, Colin. I am in the process of doing a slow fade on all of my online presence and public pronouncements on matters fishy and non-fishy at present, so hang on a bit longer and you won't have me around to read and to find difficult!
 
Your choice Paul, I'm not telling you what to write, same as you're not telling me what to read.

Merely my observation and subsiquent opinion.
 
That's a pity Paul. I enjoy your cryptic writing; maybe I have reread a sentence or two, but its articulately & imaginatively written all the same. Additionally, there is a lot of novel aspects you introduce that no-one else contributes.

Our loss if this is so.

Cheers, Jon
 
Irrespective of who was first, Paul Boote, or Brian Clarke; the fact is that Clarke's journalism is and has been for a considerable time, the best widely read outside of the Angling press, representation of what many anglers have felt for a long time on many issues. For that we should be grateful. His column always comes as a blessed relief from the hysteria of much of what passes for journalism in the various angling papers and magazines (and is often reflected here on this very board).
The Tories spokesperson on angling, is himself a Barbel angler and has publicly stated his commitment to continuing the good work of Martin Slater. Lets hoped he is not knocked of course by either his fellow MP's obsessions with flood relief, the "green" stunts of micro generation on rivers or the celebrity campaigns on otters.
Personally I admire Clarke for his stance on personal liberty and his attendance on the countryside march. My own personal prejudice against horrah henries led me to keep well away, however that doesn't lesson the fact that the hunting act was an attack on liberty and set the agenda for much else done in similar light by the government. It certainly allowed people to see hunting (which includes angling for wild fish) as something that was opposed, rather than for, conservation and that is tragic.
 
Hi All,

I have only been a member of this forum for a week or two, but in that short period I have read as many of the threads (new and old) as I could in the time I had available, and followed the post's of those members that appealed to me as being particularly interesting.

Obviously Paul, the author of this thread, was one of those on my list....love him or hate him, it is impossible to avoid being affected by the guy, one way or the other:D

Personally, I find myself agreeing with a great deal of what Paul has said on many (though not all) subjects, and I gather that I am not alone in this view. The newspaper article that he has bought to our attention in this thread is as Paul states, a vindication of a number of the stances he has taken on various issues in the past.

How sad is it then that the abrasive and...it has to be said...occasionally offensive way that Paul has of putting his points across has quite understandably lead to his being being disliked and eventually ignored by a number of the other members of this forum.

Paul has now hinted on this thread that this "Villification" (his word) has had an effect, and that he will probably be leaving the forum in the near future. I know there will be many on here who will merely say 'Not before time' to this news, and I understand that view point. However, in my opinion it is very sad that the vast reservoir of knowledge and experience, and the great depth of perception that the man brings to bear on any particular issue will now be lost to this forum.

It would perhaps have been better if Paul had been more of an angling politician, however much he dislikes that side of our sport. At least then he may have learnt to word his comments in a manner more acceptable to others, without diluting the content.

OK...having got that admittedly opinionated ramble off of my chest, I will apologise profusely for my dreadful misuse of another members thread, and don my tin hat in readiness for the probable hail of whatever that may now decend upon me from all sides :p

Cheers, Dave.
 
Dave,

Don't be too sad about Paul's forthcoming, "slow fade".

If you had been around these boards a little longer you would realise that this is nothing more than the latest in a long line of PB flounces.:D
 
Hi All,

I have only been a member of this forum for a week or two, but in that short period I have read as many of the threads (new and old) as I could in the time I had available, and followed the post's of those members that appealed to me as being particularly interesting.

Obviously Paul, the author of this thread, was one of those on my list....love him or hate him, it is impossible to avoid being affected by the guy, one way or the other:D

Personally, I find myself agreeing with a great deal of what Paul has said on many (though not all) subjects, and I gather that I am not alone in this view. The newspaper article that he has bought to our attention in this thread is as Paul states, a vindication of a number of the stances he has taken on various issues in the past.

How sad is it then that the abrasive and...it has to be said...occasionally offensive way that Paul has of putting his points across has quite understandably lead to his being being disliked and eventually ignored by a number of the other members of this forum.

Paul has now hinted on this thread that this "Villification" (his word) has had an effect, and that he will probably be leaving the forum in the near future. I know there will be many on here who will merely say 'Not before time' to this news, and I understand that view point. However, in my opinion it is very sad that the vast reservoir of knowledge and experience, and the great depth of perception that the man brings to bear on any particular issue will now be lost to this forum.

It would perhaps have been better if Paul had been more of an angling politician, however much he dislikes that side of our sport. At least then he may have learnt to word his comments in a manner more acceptable to others, without diluting the content.

OK...having got that admittedly opinionated ramble off of my chest, I will apologise profusely for my dreadful misuse of another members thread, and don my tin hat in readiness for the probable hail of whatever that may now decend upon me from all sides :p

Cheers, Dave.



Hmm. Interesting, apparently disingenuous yet clued-up and spinning, hit the ground running, stuff from a new arrival here, someone I bothered myself to reply to and help on the matter of a Speedia restoration by means of a couple of PMs recently, but hey that's Angling today - inextricably mixed with a stinky old sort of politics, not much to do with fish and fishing any more... By the way, "vilification" with one 'l' - please.

Anyway, the more desperate, stinky and ancient among you here, do feel free to carry on.
 
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