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Pin difference.

In laymens terms a true pin runs on oiled bushes ( bronze sleeves/or inserts ) and a lot of modern pins , like Okuma run on sealed bearings .
 
Paul whiteing is the man to ask about pins
 
Ones like the Okuma style pins i put in the Abur type bracket as their spools are much wider and they run on sealed bearing.
 
I think Dave and Tom are correct. True pins are, I believe, harder, or rather more time consuming to engineer and therefore more expensive. From what I can gather, and based on the handful of pins in my collection, a true pin requires less inertia to start spinning, but pins on bearings generally spin for longer, not that any of it makes a lot of practical difference in real world fishing situations.
 
It's interesting as many have said that those with bearings run better? I have both myself.

I own a very old Adcock Stanton, that runs like a dream. I've also brought but not received a Okuma. It will be interesting to see the difference myself?

On another level, the Okuma reels seem very popular with Steelhead anglers in the US and Canada. Their they retune the reels with six bearings rather than two.

Richard.
 
Richard Barrett said:
It's interesting as many have said that those with bearings run better? I have both myself.

I own a very old Adcock Stanton, that runs like a dream. I've also brought but not received a Okuma. It will be interesting to see the difference myself?
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I could be wrong, but I've always believed that the Adcock Stantons are bearing reels, even the older ones. There aren't that many new true pins out there, especially at reasonably modest prices. Two that do spring to mind are the Hardy Conquest and Greys Bewick, both have now been discontinued by Hardy/Greys.

As far as I'm concerned, when I was first mucking about with pins, I couldn't have told that there was any particular difference in use. Only as I've become more practiced have I noticed that there is. Naturally, it depends on the reels concerned. I have duplicate reels of certain types of true and bearing pins. None of them perform identically.

Whilst the true pins will often do just as well as bearing reels in the rather pointless length of spin test, whether they have similar initial inertia comes down the design of the reels concerned. Where I do notice a general difference is in the way that true pins tend to slow down in response to reduced flow when trotting. It's not that big a deal, but I do find myself deploying my controlling thumb slightly more when using a bearing reel to trot.

Whilst I'm not one for legering with pins, I can't see how such differences would be noticeable to those that only leger with pins.
 
Chris Jones said:
Where I do notice a general difference is in the way that true pins tend to slow down in response to reduced flow when trotting. It's not that big a deal, but I do find myself deploying my controlling thumb slightly more when using a bearing reel to trot.
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Ditto.

I've only acquired a couple of bearing pins this year, my previous experience being with true pins only, and this is literally the only difference that I can tell between the two. Otherwise I like and use both types and whether or not they are true or bearing doesn't really factor into my thinking, their specific uses more decided by size, width, weight etc etc.
 
I think your question has been answered admirably Richard.

I own both but prefer the true pins because I can slow them down with thicker "oil" if I need. I only leger for barbel and I have only used pins for the last 30+ years :)

I have an Okuma but wouldn't leave it in a rest for fear of an overrun, at least the Fred Crouches / Aerials have a drag. All other non-true-pins I've owned have been sold on.
 
The click on my new Okuma works perfectly as a drag Paul, it's very smooth in fact. While I don't ledger with pins, with this one I could as the check would stop any overrun. The check on my old Adcock Stanton is a beast and now where near as smooth, but for trotting it's a diamond. JMO.
 
Paul Whiteing said:
I think your question has been answered admirably Richard.

I own both but prefer the true pins because I can slow them down with thicker "oil" if I need. I only leger for barbel and I have only used pins for the last 30+ years :)

I have an Okuma but wouldn't leave it in a rest for fear of an overrun, at least the Fred Crouches / Aerials have a drag. All other non-true-pins I've owned have been sold on.
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Thus sprach[spake] Zarathustra :D:D
Hiya Paul, hope you are well :)
 
Paul Whiteing said:
You lost me there Bill, even with Google's "help"

Yes, fine thanks, but could do with a bend in my rod :D
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YouTube : Thus sprach [spake] Zarathustra Paul....It's a bit of music by Richard Struass...you'll know it when you hear it....So Spoke Zarathustra is the English literal from the German....Just my weird sense of humour with wordplay !!!!
 
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