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New set of eyes on rod.

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Malcolm Hough

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Hi All, this is just a general inquiry. I have owned a pair of Daiwa Infinity Barbel Rods for many years now, and although they have been brilliant rods and never really let me down I have always disliked the size of the eyes on the rods. I find them just a bit on the small side, to the point where just a small amount of weed/ leaves hinder the line. I am toying with the idea of maybe getting them re-ringed. ( is that a word. 😅) So, I am after recommendations for anybody that could do this and maybe a ball park figure. Malc.
 
Lots of rod builders offer a refurb / rebuild service for old rods. Re-ringing is a fairly straightforward job and the cost will probably be determined by the number of ring, the type of ring you want putting-on (e.g. sic or alconite) and perhaps most critically whether you and single or double leg ringing as that obviously has a big impact on the labour required.

Your probably better off trying to get a local rod-builder so you can drop the rods off in person in order to save on courier costs, so it might be helpful if you can let everyone know where you are based so they can suggest someone local to you. If your up Lancs way I can recommend Dave Lumb who has done some excellent rebuilds and repairs for me, a bit further south towards Stoke Kev Baines is well regarded.

D.L. Specialist Tackle - | custom built pike rods and more |

Dave Lumb's D.L. Specialist Tackle - Fishing rods and tackle for UK based specialist anglers
www.dlst.co.uk
 
If you are in the south-east Malcolm I can recommend Marc Barnett who builds for the Tackle Box at Dartford or Bob Morris who has been building rods since Noah was a lad. Please feel free to contact me if you want contact details.
 
Malcolm Hough said:
Hi All, this is just a general inquiry. I have owned a pair of Daiwa Infinity Barbel Rods for many years now, and although they have been brilliant rods and never really let me down I have always disliked the size of the eyes on the rods. I find them just a bit on the small side, to the point where just a small amount of weed/ leaves hinder the line. I am toying with the idea of maybe getting them re-ringed. ( is that a word. 😅) So, I am after recommendations for anybody that could do this and maybe a ball park figure. Malc.
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Cheers for the replies folks, I forgot to mention I live in North Wales/ Chester area.
 
I have 2 infinity's and have never had a problem tbh, but it depends on the type of weed fibre you pick up etc. If your going to get them rerung, just go up the next size etc. I would be tempted to go fuji K guides, KWAG are very nice. The single leg guides are very strong too and deffo no need for double legs.
 
Malcolm,
Have you spoken to your local tackle shop, most can 're-ring or have contact with someone local who does work for them.
 
It’s a very straight forward job to re ring a rod. You might even improve it other ways too if the original rings were not fitted across the rod spine.
 
Neil Smart said:
To get a finish akin to your loved Harrison's Richard. it would be almost impossible for us mere mortals. I can whip a guide on, but it would never be as good as a pro rod builder.
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Me neither matey, the pros are pros for a reason. I’d certainly never preach to be at the same level.
However I’ve done a good few, I’ve got all the kit for ring replacement and I have a nice little adapter for my metal lathe which can transform it into a blank turner.
ive Got a few to do on a 4 piece j w young.
I’ll do them between Xmas and new year and put up some pics. I’m certainly no Bob Gill but I ain’t half bad at it.
 
Was only a suggestion that’s all fellas. Sometimes it’s quite nice to do little jobs for yourself.
no it’s not a jigsaw Terry. And the rings are perfectly fine. Some of the whippings are showing white cracks under the varnish and I’ve been meaning to re do them.
 
One of my blue diamonds needs the butt Section whippings doing as well. Same issue as the jw 4pc
I really enjoy little projects like these, the problem is just finding the time.
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Richard Isaacs said:
Was only a suggestion that’s all fellas. Sometimes it’s quite nice to do little jobs for yourself.
no it’s not a jigsaw Terry. And the rings are perfectly fine. Some of the whippings are showing white cracks under the varnish and I’ve been meaning to re do them.
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Wondered what that was matey, if am right ii's a dope they use to seal the varnish, or rather some clear nail varnish, babe. ;)
 
Neil Smart said:
Wondered what that was matey, if am right ii's a dope they use to seal the varnish, or rather some clear nail varnish, babe. ;)
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Don’t worry about it Neil. Your obviously very board with nothing better to do.
FYI it’s the original epoxy varnish from factory probably 25 or more years ago. Why it’s cracked like that I’m unsure but I am sure it’s of no interest to you as you seem more interested in trying to play BFW comedian with me.
 
Richard Isaacs said:
Don’t worry about it Neil. Your obviously very board with nothing better to do.
FYI it’s the original epoxy varnish from factory probably 25 or more years ago. Why it’s cracked like that I’m unsure but I am sure it’s of no interest to you as you seem more interested in trying to play BFW comedian with me.
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Rich, epoxy is a 'convertible coating' ...that is, an irreversible chemical reaction takes places during the drying/hardening process. The epoxy would probably be plasticised (maybe with an oil or ester, and phthalates 30yrs ago), but over the years this would leach out, resulting in less flexibility/more brittleness-friability in the coating. Micro-fissures would be created when rod ring/guides were under stress (rod bending etc) which would absorb moisture. That moisture would then be adsorbed onto micro-fracture surfaces, and lead to a white 'bloom' effect. Basically, a visible oxidisation.
Cutting paste may reduce the visibility of said bloom, but the micro-fractures/fissures would be still there.
N.b.. if you'd used a non-convertible coating (e.g. nitrocellulose, thermoplastic acrylic, cellulose acetate butyrate etc) then gentle heat might improve visual appearance i.e. aesthetically only.
But what do I know 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣
 
Joe Winstanley said:
Lots of rod builders offer a refurb / rebuild service for old rods. Re-ringing is a fairly straightforward job and the cost will probably be determined by the number of ring, the type of ring you want putting-on (e.g. sic or alconite) and perhaps most critically whether you and single or double leg ringing as that obviously has a big impact on the labour required.

Your probably better off trying to get a local rod-builder so you can drop the rods off in person in order to save on courier costs, so it might be helpful if you can let everyone know where you are based so they can suggest someone local to you. If your up Lancs way I can recommend Dave Lumb who has done some excellent rebuilds and repairs for me, a bit further south towards Stoke Kev Baines is well regarded.

D.L. Specialist Tackle - | custom built pike rods and more |

Dave Lumb's D.L. Specialist Tackle - Fishing rods and tackle for UK based specialist anglers
www.dlst.co.uk
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Hi all
Lumby does make cracking rods but I'm pretty sure that he stopped doing any repairs a while ago
If you've had a few rods off him and drop them off he might do them if he's not too busy but don't think this would help with Infinitys
I've done a few ring replacements and it really isn't that hard and plenty of tutorials on you- tube
That said I can be quite utilitarian on some rods and my repairs are certainly nowhere near a pro standard but they stay put and allow me to use the rod
I have a Mk1 armalite that I got for £15 and have the same dilemma
It does the job as a pike rod but the eyes are tiny compared with modern rods and I convince myself if I change them over I will gain another 40 yards on the cast( in reality I won't notice )
Apathy tends to get the better of me mostly and only bush repairs get done But I bet it is a good feeling to do it properly yourself
 
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