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Have I bought a twin tip rod with two identical tips?

Adrian Sadler

Active Member
Two Fox Horizon X4 Twin Tip rods arrived. Apart from the lettering (1.75 and 2.25) I couldn't tell the tips apart.

So I measured three identical points on each top (each end and middle, avoiding epoxied areas) and the diameters are very similar.

Then I supported each butt horizontally/equally, threaded them up and hung weights from 25 to 400g on the line and measured how much each tip moved. Again I saw no significant difference. And in comparison both tips deflected about same as an FS Barbel Tamer 1.75lb.

Do you think I've been sent four 1.75lb tips?

I'd go and throw some feeders & try catch something but this will invalidate ability to send them back.
 
Two Fox Horizon X4 Twin Tip rods arrived. Apart from the lettering (1.75 and 2.25) I couldn't tell the tips apart.

So I measured three identical points on each top (each end and middle, avoiding epoxied areas) and the diameters are very similar.

Then I supported each butt horizontally/equally, threaded them up and hung weights from 25 to 400g on the line and measured how much each tip moved. Again I saw no significant difference. And in comparison both tips deflected about same as an FS Barbel Tamer 1.75lb.

Do you think I've been sent four 1.75lb tips?

I'd go and throw some feeders & try catch something but this will invalidate ability to send them back.
Put the 2.25 top section on
Support the rod as best you can at a perfect 90° horizontal and hang the best part of 2lb in weight off the tip. If it bends past 90° it’s the wrong tip. If it doesn’t quite make 90° it’s correct.
 
So. I measured all four top section at four places at 90° intervals and all are within a fraction of a % the same average diameter.

Then I loaded all four up to 1.75lb. They all deflected the same amount and the curves all looked identical. The tips were not quite at 90° to butt.

I compared with a FS Barbel Tamer 1.75lb and the tip deflection of that was 25mm more, but the curve was much more through-action and the tip was also at a similar, nearly 90° to butt, angle.

My conclusion is that I've been sent four x 1.75lb top sections* and I've lost an evening measuring stuff.

All pictures are of a 1.75 and a 2.25 top in same photo. Except the red-tip which is the FS 1.75 Vs Fox 1.75

*And that my workshop needs a tidy!
 
Hi Adrian,
I have the exact same rods (bought several years ago). The difference between my 1.75 & 2.25 tips is very obvious just from looking.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Darren
 
Darren, thanks that's good to know.

I don't suppose you've got a vernier and could measure the diameter of yours so I can determine if I've got 4x2.25 or (as I reckon) 4x1.75 tips*?

I've got average of 1.6mm just below tip ring, 3.0mm above third guide and 5.7 above fifth guide. All four tips' measurements are within +/- 3% of the average.

*Given how thin these tips are, and my "history" and the fact that there are stories on this site of breakages I might need a few ;-)
 
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