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Daiwa rods reduced to bargain price !

If I may ask, Adam - as you seem to have a lot of tackle (particularly rods) for sale in new or nearly-new condition: Are they unwanted presents from very generous family/friends, or is it the case that you buy then try, and don't like the feel of them?

Good luck with the sales, by the way. 👍
 
Its a disease Adam, not sure of the medical term though.
 
Crazy, he is the victim of others who reinforce their 'shrewd" purchases and preferences on others. We are all guilty, 11 foot rods are better than 12 or 13, Harrison's are superior to Freespirit etc whereas in truth none of that is important, what is to enjoy whay you have, being minimalist and confident in whatever you have is liberating.
When I see the array of gear the match angler uses to snatch a few silver's is mind boggling, and the amount of maggots at a cost most could not afford or justify.
Of course it's all nonsense, we are driven by perhaps the most powerful of all buying motives Status, to have the best gear that money can buy makes us better.
We have to look the part,desperate not to look like a novice or worst than anything a ^noddy" .
I recall that late great man John Wilson in one of his episodes catching Chub on a rod fashioned from a tree branch and the bait a big black slug.
The Chub didn't care.
 
As Neil says above, one mans meat, ive owned a few expensive rods ( Harrisons, Free Spirit etc ) and absolutely hated them, far too much bend for my liking. I know there not to everyones taste, but my all time go to barbel rod is an original 2lb tc greys prodigy. Solid in the butt section, with a forgiving tip. Each to their own. Great post Neil.
 
Neil Smart said:
Crazy, he is the victim of others who reinforce their 'shrewd" purchases and preferences on others. We are all guilty, 11 foot rods are better than 12 or 13, Harrison's are superior to Freespirit etc whereas in truth none of that is important, what is to enjoy whay you have, being minimalist and confident in whatever you have is liberating.
When I see the array of gear the match angler uses to snatch a few silver's is mind boggling, and the amount of maggots at a cost most could not afford or justify.
Of course it's all nonsense, we are driven by perhaps the most powerful of all buying motives Status, to have the best gear that money can buy makes us better.
We have to look the part,desperate not to look like a novice or worst than anything a ^noddy" .
I recall that late great man John Wilson in one of his episodes catching Chub on a rod fashioned from a tree branch and the bait a big black slug.
The Chub didn't care.
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Don't think it's as easy as that Neil. For sure it goes on and today Angling marketing is very sophisticated and exceptionally good at getting us to part with our money. No question.
But quite a lot of us have fished from being kids, used 2nd hand crappy gear cos that's all there was/ we could afford. Then got jobs, mortgages, marriage, kids, no job, debt and all that stuff. And it's a been a progression to top-end gear, in my case a 40+ year progression. And who knows, circumstances might force me to sell my gear?? We live in a very strange & unpredictable world.
Said it before I work and when I can I fish, - really boring. So I like to buy a few rods and reels here & there. Certainly don't do it for the benefit of people on here or for my peers on the bank. They couldn't give a stuff. But how people spend their money is their prerogative and their business and I don't think it's all about ego.
I bought a guy's complete carp set-up a few years ago and he must have paid thousands for it. All because of a chance conversation and I'd wanted some Delkim alarms for donkeys years and could never justify buying them.When I went to check it out and spoke to him, it transpired he'd had a horrific industrial accident and as part of his recuperation and therapy he used the compensation to start carp-fishing and he went at it in a big way and money wasn't an issue. He then nearly died of a blood clot and then contracted cancer and was simply too ill and weak to carry on fishing. No doubt he'd been seduced by buying nice gear but if it made him happy, was it a bad thing?

But you are correct that the fish too aren't bothered and even the cheapest modern rod will catch barbel for a time.
It's also true re John Wilson. I fished with him for 2 days at his home in Thailand shortly before he passed and all his gear was putting it mildly, well used and none of it expensive.
His rod pod fell over every time we got a run, and his alarms barely worked, but we still caught plenty.
 
Paul Richardson said:
Don't think it's as easy as that Neil. For sure it goes on and today Angling marketing is very sophisticated and exceptionally good at getting us to part with our money. No question.
But quite a lot of us have fished from being kids, used 2nd hand crappy gear cos that's all there was/ we could afford. Then got jobs, mortgages, marriage, kids, no job, debt and all that stuff. And it's a been a progression to top-end gear, in my case a 40+ year progression. And who knows, circumstances might force me to sell my gear?? We live in a very strange & unpredictable world.
Said it before I work and when I can I fish, - really boring. So I like to buy a few rods and reels here & there. Certainly don't do it for the benefit of people on here or for my peers on the bank. They couldn't give a stuff. But how people spend their money is their prerogative and their business and I don't think it's all about ego.
I bought a guy's complete carp set-up a few years ago and he must have paid thousands for it. All because of a chance conversation and I'd wanted some Delkim alarms for donkeys years and could never justify buying them.When I went to check it out and spoke to him, it transpired he'd had a horrific industrial accident and as part of his recuperation and therapy he used the compensation to start carp-fishing and he went at it in a big way and money wasn't an issue. He then nearly died of a blood clot and then contracted cancer and was simply too ill and weak to carry on fishing. No doubt he'd been seduced by buying nice gear but if it made him happy, was it a bad thing?

But you are correct that the fish too aren't bothered and even the cheapest modern rod will catch barbel for a time.
It's also true re John Wilson. I fished with him for 2 days at his home in Thailand shortly before he passed and all his gear was putting it mildly, well used and none of it expensive.
His rod pod fell over every time we got a run, and his alarms barely worked, but we still caught plenty.
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You put a sensible slant on it Paul, I really I do get this obsession with the gear, and we all fall for it, especially as we get older and have a bit more to spend. As a kid I I made my own rods and saved up or used Mums Freemans catalogue. And caught a few.
If it helps anyone get by in this life then I won't judge although I did, and that was wrong.
But there is a simpler more fun aspect to our sport, that was portrayed by Passion all those years ago, and I suppose that if we at least understand the futility of this obsession then there is redemption?
I would have loved to have fished with JW, only ever met him once in Chippenham, a book signing, he had it all right in his head did John.
A great loss to our sport.
 
Interesting perspective Neil.

I guess there are varying motivations for wanting to use high end tackle. Not least wanting to use to best tool for the job. I started using Harrison rods for tench after using someone else's and realising how much better at casting (for me anyway) they were compared to the Greys Prodigy 1.25/1.75's I was using. I was able to put out a significantly tighter bed of bait when fishing beyond medium range. In this respect there is little doubt in my mind that compared to the Prodigy's, the Interceptors have helped me catch a few more fish. But I’m not suggesting that tackle is anyway a replacement for watercraft, just to be clear.

I’m not sure the status / ego thing applies to the vast majority of specialist anglers, who by nature largely fish on their own and away from others. Everyone’s circumstances are different, but the majority of my income goes on feeding, clothing, educating and housing my kids and giving them the opportunities and experiences I didn’t have when I was younger. And thats fine, I don’t begrudge that for a instant - but fishing tackle is one of the few things I spend money on that’s just for me, and I do like using the best for the job.

Totally agree about the joy of using minimalist tackle. Freelining slugs for chub and surface fishing for carp are amongst my favourite ways to spend a day.
 
Paul Richardson said:
Amen to that. He was a grumpy sod mind, that is until he retired to the shade with a beer.
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Yes and that showed at times, but what a great presenter and angler, I imagine spending any time with him would be challenging though. His nephew Martin ran Bowler tackle and I used to buy quite a few bits from him. John's brother Dave were like chalk and cheese.
 
it was a brilliant experience Neil and I feel very privileged as he is( was) my "fishing dad"
To be honest once the nerves went ( I was a gibbering idiot) we had a great time and we just took the pee out of each other.
If I'd not been a relatively competent angler it could have been an awkward couple of days, as he just give me the bait and gear and let me get on with it.
My missus came with me and JW and her spent the full day boozing, with JW shouting instructions/ insults at me occasionally as I baked in 30degC heat but all the while hearing " the laugh" - very surreal.
But it was just us 3 until his wife turned up on day 2, not what I expected which was a " meet & greet " and off you go with a ghillie.
We got there early day 2 and did some proper JW/ Jungle fishing, creeping about on all fours, and poking rods through reed beds, stalking arapaima and huge siamese carp - freelining pellets. Never ever forget that as long as I live.
Such a clever man and I knows it's well publicized but he was so passionate about us anglers unifying to combat all the challenges that we now face, and ironically he was the man to do it.
Another thing that will always stick with me is he was actually quite humble and having lunch with him I asked him if he realised how big an impact he'd had on so many anglers over the years.He wouldn't have any of it, saying right time, right place and cited Dick Walker, Peter Stone and co as the real legends. We had to agree to disagree.

Fishing wise it was a masterclass in keeping it simple - right bait, right place and robust, simple tackle.
 
Nice story Paul, and actually that is exactly as I imagined him to be, sounds like the missus had a great time too.
Yes he was insanely clever his knowledge of all things wildlife was impressive. I collected all his dvd's, many were sold in filling stations and the like, and were dirt cheap.
Of all his fishing exploits on camera, my favourite was the Teme one, his extra pieces in the episodes were great, and this one in particular was interesting with the itinerant hop pickers...he was fortunate get out of there alive!
 
Joe Winstanley said:
Interesting perspective Neil.

I guess there are varying motivations for wanting to use high end tackle. Not least wanting to use to best tool for the job. I started using Harrison rods for tench after using someone else's and realising how much better at casting (for me anyway) they were compared to the Greys Prodigy 1.25/1.75's I was using. I was able to put out a significantly tighter bed of bait when fishing beyond medium range. In this respect there is little doubt in my mind that compared to the Prodigy's, the Interceptors have helped me catch a few more fish. But I’m not suggesting that tackle is anyway a replacement for watercraft, just to be clear.

I’m not sure the status / ego thing applies to the vast majority of specialist anglers, who by nature largely fish on their own and away from others. Everyone’s circumstances are different, but the majority of my income goes on feeding, clothing, educating and housing my kids and giving them the opportunities and experiences I didn’t have when I was younger. And thats fine, I don’t begrudge that for a instant - but fishing tackle is one of the few things I spend money on that’s just for me, and I do like using the best for the job.

Totally agree about the joy of using minimalist tackle. Freelining slugs for chub and surface fishing for carp are amongst my favourite ways to spend a day.
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Great stuff Joe... agree with all of that, except that I reckon we speccy anglers are more tarty than you give us credit for. I honestly get that, fishing tackle is a beautiful subject matter and is very collectable.
As to what is the best tackle, it is the impossible conundrum, but I am sure you will agree its the one that is attached to a feisty barbel.
 
Neil Smart said:
As a kid I I made my own rods and saved up or used Mums Freemans catalogue.
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They were the days,Chistmas and birthdays 1975/80 me mum said choose anything in the catalogue to a maximum amount of money, pretty sure it was littlewoods or Brian mills and to be fair there was quite a good selection in the fishing section, freshwater rods and reels at different price levels and sea angling tackle,the most expensive being Daiwa or Abu.Great memories of building up a collection and making sure looking after it.Always a buzz trying out new and better rods and reels.Just the same now😃
 
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