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Clubs on the Tidal Trent

Mark Walters

Mark Walters

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Hi chaps, I'd like to do some more trips on the TT next season but as I'l be travelling I need some where that allows night fishing so I can do 48 hour sessions, if anyone can point me in the right direction it would much apprieciated.



Thanks



Mark
 
The Barbel society controls a great bit of the TT at Sutton but it's not cheap, first you have to join the b/s, about £20 I think, and then you have to pay for the syndicate, I don't know how much it is now but it used to be about £60, and of course you are also bound by the bs rules and regulations. On the plus side you can park behind your swim and it is a locked gate fishery.
 
well said tony

very expensive compared to surrounding clubs . you can get better stretches for a third of the bs price
 
Thanks for all your input chaps.

Adrian,without wishing to start another Barbel Society debate are there rules and regs any different to other clubs?
 
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Mark Walters said:
Thanks for all your input chaps.

Adrian,without wishing to start another Barbel Society debate are there rules and regs any different to other clubs?
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Mark, I have no intention of causing a war either so this will be my one and only post on this subject.
Things may be different now but I always felt that they (the bs) always had some odd ideas concerning the use of bivvys or brolleys with storm sides and when you could and couldn't sleep in them, I was paranoid about nodding off while fishing Sutton or Beauchamp from a brolley. Of course that might be my own personal paranoia.
I know this is contentious but I've never been over comfortable with the barbel handling code or the keepnet ban. Having kept thousands of barbel in keepnets up until the mid 90's I have never found a dead one at the end of a fishing session, I have however seen plenty of barbel floating down the river belly up having been released by people following the 'handling code'.
From a barbels point of view I feel that a rest in a nice dark keepnet after capture is preferable to being held and cradled for however long it takes before being released into the main current. However good the anglers intentions, in the barbels mind all he knows is something big is possibly going to eat him. I never really felt comfortable fishing any of the b/s waters, I always felt I was under scrutiny and been judged.
I've also never found a need for a rule which says no tins......If you have one which says no litter why do you need to be specific about tins? And how far do you take it? What about the guy who rolls his own fags and keeps his baccy in a tin?
I also like the odd beer on a summers evening or a nip of brandy in my coco on a chilly winters night but 'NO ALCOHOL' is the rule, if they are worried about drunken behaviour on the bank surely this is covered by the general rules of etiquette?
I could rabbit on and on but basically it boils down to being treated like an adult and not being patronised by an overbearing committee.
 
Mark,

Sutton isn't the most picturesque stretch of river you're likely to see,but let's face it,how much of the Tidal is pleasing on the eye? If you're after good fishing,on a safe, secure,locked water with like minded specialists, then Sutton is a cracking option.

Contrary to what Ade implies, the use of bivvies is permitted at Sutton,though sleeping whilst fishing (quite rightfully in my humble opinion) is not allowed.

Ade,

You insinuate that this isn't an anti BS stance, but your hypocricy shines through like a beacon.

I've also never found a need for a rule which says no tins......If you have one which says no litter why do you need to be specific about tins? And how far do you take it? What about the guy who rolls his own fags and keeps his baccy in a tin?
I also like the odd beer on a summers evening or a nip of brandy in my coco on a chilly winters night but 'NO ALCOHOL' is the rule, if they are worried about drunken behaviour on the bank surely this is covered by the general rules of etiquette?
I could rabbit on and on but basically it boils down to being treated like an adult and not being patronised by an overbearing committee.
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Are you not a member of PAAS? I'm also a member and in terms of rules and regulations, they are the strictest club I've ever come across,which personally I have no problem with. In fact I find it an attraction.

Interestingly enough, the behaviour and etiquette rules of Prince Albert state that no litter is allowed ,but specifically mention cigarette ends and tins, amongst several other things. They also ban alcohol on all waters.

If you want to have a dig at the Society Ade, then by all means do, but please be brave enough to admit that is what you're doing, instead of hiding behind a smokescreen.

Rob
 
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Rob Hilton said:
Mark,

Sutton isn't the most picturesque stretch of river you're likely to see,but let's face it,how much of the Tidal is pleasing on the eye? If you're after good fishing,on a safe, secure,locked water with like minded specialists, then Sutton is a cracking option.

Contrary to what Ade implies, the use of bivvies is permitted at Sutton,though sleeping whilst fishing (quite rightfully in my humble opinion) is not allowed.

Ade,

You insinuate that this isn't an anti BS stance, but your hypocricy shines through like a beacon.



Are you not a member of PAAS? I'm also a member and in terms of rules and regulations, they are the strictest club I've ever come across,which personally I have no problem with. In fact I find it an attraction.

Interestingly enough, the behaviour and etiquette rules of Prince Albert state that no litter is allowed ,but specifically mention cigarette ends and tins, amongst several other things. They also ban alcohol on all waters.

If you want to have a dig at the Society Ade, then by all means do, but please be brave enough to admit that is what you're doing, instead of hiding behind a smokescreen.

Rob
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ouch!
 
He's entitled to his opinion Tony and although I said I wouldn't be drawn into a war I feel I should answer his accusations of hypocrisy.

Rob, paas also has a no publicity rule so I will keep this brief, What you describe would be hypocrisy if I had never mentioned the subject of redundant rules to the club concerned, however, as I think you know, I have brought this up on several occasions both publicly on the forum and individually in private conversations with several committee members and numerous bailiffs.
I can however see their point, as an open membership club with 6000? members and hundreds of waters they obviously have to have a fairly comprehensive rule book, I cant see how you can compare that to a small single species group with a couple of hundred members who are mostly known to each other.
 
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Thanks for your thoughts and opinions guys and i'v taken them board. Your right Rob about the tidal not being the most beautifull river but i have the Wye on my doorstep for that :) i'v been given a few options to think about some of which are a fraction of the price of the BS stretch good job i'v got a couple of months to think about it.
 
I enjoyed my time on Sutton, there was always plenty of room a few decent blokes fished it. I had some good fish out but the main sticking point was the access. I was always edgy about getting the van stuck after struggling to get off the bank twice.

If you plan on doing a fair few sessions then its good value. I was paying £10 for 24 hours at Muskham. If I ever get a 4x4 then I'd rejoin just to fish here.
 
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