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Blanks... of the rod variety

Neil Smart

Senior Member
I was going through the merits of my assortments of rods, mostly of the Barbel variety, some horrible things, some not so, all to do with fashion, marketing or just plain old reccomendations by others.

Perhaps the most delightful rods I own are the Torrix 1.75 11 foot, and the superb Dave Mason river rod made by Andy Silwa.

My preference is small river fishing, so you can see why, but the junk we anglers have to endure in the name of specialist rods is huge. I don't need to cast heavy weights to the horizon, well occasionally on a flooded Severn, but don't you think that most Barbel rods set out with that in mind, and for the most part we are left overgunned without the sensation of playing a fish on such heavy gear?

The Dave Mason rod is built on the 10.6 ft1M6 blank, an American thing I believe, and the need is for strength combined with lightness, to suit their lure preference.

I certainly am no expert on rod blanks, but I know some on here are, and I would love to explore the possibilities of using these blanks for my kind of fishing, and for others too, I believe these blanks might be unavailable now, but are there similar?

Given that Barbel are thinning out somewhat, especially the smaller rivers, I need a rod that can cope with the odd barbel, but is fine with the bigger club, and not have a heavy feel. 6 to 8lb line, 10 to 11 foot that will cast a loaded 40 gram feeder, if you can better the Dave Mason I will be a happy blanker. 😊
 
Yes, lots of choice out there and some good rods - usually cheaper too.
As you said the Dave Mason rod was great but got discontinued - one of the hazards when dealing with the 'american' market. Full marks to Andy Sliwa for doing the legwork in finding them.
Bought some blanks and made them up to try them. Try an Evoke twin tip blank usually in stock.
Good fun.
Cheers
Bob
 
Chimera 1 is a good call Neil.
I had a 15,03 and a 15,01 out the ivel on mine yet it was an absolute pleasure with a chunky chub or perch too on lighter lines.
It’s no bullying tool mind. Small rivers as you know do require a decent set of brakes sometimes and this rod doesn’t stop em like your Torrixs will
 
I mostly fishing a channel of the Thames this year, some big chubs with odd barbels there. Most of the time, I am using an old Daiwa powermesh 1.25lb Avon rod. Although I haven't catch any big fish so far this year, only a few chubs up to around 5lb, but the rod has been tested with hard fighting goose (safely released after I landed it) and a cruiser boat. So I am fairly confident it will cope with larger fish.

My point is, all decent Avon style rod blank (Chimera, Harrison Avon etc) should be fine.
 
Chimera 1 is a good call Neil.
I had a 15,03 and a 15,01 out the ivel on mine yet it was an absolute pleasure with a chunky chub or perch too on lighter lines.
It’s no bullying tool mind. Small rivers as you know do require a decent set of brakes sometimes and this rod doesn’t stop em like your Torrixs will
Chimera 1 12' 1.5 is a nice rod - there is also the Chimera Avon at 11' 1.25. Will always like the standard 11' Avon 1lb 6oz which is a classic.
Cheers
Bob
 
Torrix 1.25 tip rod built by Mark Tunley has been an absolute revelation. An absolute joy to use and play fish hard on.
Even used it on the Wye with the 4oz quivertip and had fish to just under 10 on it.
If I had to keep one rod - that would be it.
Good shout - plenty of power low down when you need it. Got a pair with double tips and really rate them. Prefer these to my 1.5s.

Cheers
Bob
 
Depending on how much you want to step down in power from the Torrix 1.75, I'd say have a look at the Harrison Avon 11' 1.06 tc or Harrison SU Avon 11' 1.10 tc. The former is ideal with 8lb line, the latter 10lb line.
 
Some really great advice chaps, so dependable....I guess I need to approach my fishing in a slightly different way, other than setting up the Barbel rods, and wait, and wait and wait, and then go home...:rolleyes: Things have changed so much since I started this Barbel thing, I used to be quite content and happy catching all manner of species, on the 'tip' or float, the latter being a joy and I forgot just what it was like to flick out a stick float and seeing the dip of the float.
I did dust the float rod off Sunday, what a pleasure, until I ruined the session by breaking the fine line that I am not used to around the bail arm...but it's a start.
I ended the session in the conventional manner , Torrix, and with a nice big chunk of Black Pepper Spam, and a 3llb Chub obliged last knockings, this stretch was almost guaranteed a Barbel or two, big girls sometimes, BUT the Chub are still there, big too from the commotion they caused at dusk.
We also saw grass snakes swimming and Kingfisher fishing, not too bad eh?
 
Not that particular model (the Dave Mason 10' 6") - which I think was a Sportex blank (may be wrong).
That's not to say it wouldn't land a steelhead.
the one i looked at was christophe pelhate,s from memory i remember it being a silver coloured blank and weighed as much as a small family hatchback
 
Dave Mason boasted they would catch anything that swam in the river, but I think he meant the Teme .:)
Have the specific blank details somewhere on an old computer. Remember Andy being a bit miffed when PB discontinued them and he had to find a suitable substitute(s) from another manufacturer.

Cheers
Bob
 
Have the specific blank details somewhere on an old computer. Remember Andy being a bit miffed when PB discontinued them and he had to find a suitable substitute(s) from another manufacturer.

Cheers
Bob
My rod has the wooden reel seat, and Andy's sig on the butt, guess it was one of the originals?
 
Depending on how much you want to step down in power from the Torrix 1.75, I'd say have a look at the Harrison Avon 11' 1.06 tc or Harrison SU Avon 11' 1.10 tc. The former is ideal with 8lb line, the latter 10lb line.
Sounds ideal Joe, especially the 1.06 t.c.
 
Some really great advice chaps, so dependable....I guess I need to approach my fishing in a slightly different way, other than setting up the Barbel rods, and wait, and wait and wait, and then go home...:rolleyes: Things have changed so much since I started this Barbel thing, I used to be quite content and happy catching all manner of species, on the 'tip' or float, the latter being a joy and I forgot just what it was like to flick out a stick float and seeing the dip of the float.
I did dust the float rod off Sunday, what a pleasure, until I ruined the session by breaking the fine line that I am not used to around the bail arm...but it's a start.
I ended the session in the conventional manner , Torrix, and with a nice big chunk of Black Pepper Spam, and a 3llb Chub obliged last knockings, this stretch was almost guaranteed a Barbel or two, big girls sometimes, BUT the Chub are still there, big too from the commotion they caused at dusk.
We also saw grass snakes swimming and Kingfisher fishing, not too bad eh?
I've learned a lot this season so far - quite by accident TBH
Using that Torrix rod , I fish it like a feeder rod - busier fishing.
So I might be making more casts/ disturbance but I'm using 40/50g feeders so quite unobtrusive. In the right swims I find I cover a lot more water searching the swim - are they tucked under cover, in the flow, somewhere between ? and no 2 days are ever the same.
Using the tip I see bites way quicker , so get control sooner if it is close to cover or a snaggy swim. Also I'm happy to catch what's in front of me so I'm hooking more chub rather than get driven mad by them. If I want to just catch barbel, then it's probably not the right method,
And I know it sounds crazy but I'm using 15lb main line on a 1.25tc rod, and I can really utilise the power in the rod, with absolute confidence. It is a strange rod - so much power in it for such a lightweight , slim blank. But we have a lot of smaller barbel / big chub and they are so much fun on this rod, whereas on a Chimera 3 it'll bend but it 's barely out of first gear.
So being a bit more proactive has certainly paid dividends and little changes like fishing a single 8mm pellet has got me a lot of bonus fish. Previously I would feed pellets and offer a 12mm boilie or double pellet as the hookbait on the basis it will stand out amongst the freebies. Big bait = big fish. And it will often work but when it hasn't , just stepping down to a single has brought good consistent results.
And I think when you're fishing tip style you do try things a bit more, than when I fish specimen hunter style and it's almost a war of attrition; the trap is set and the method proven.
One thing is for certain, I've caught more consistently this season than ever before using one rod, but that's a whole different thread
 
What a good post Paul, and some really insightful stuff, your obviously enjoying your fishing with a few added tweaks. That is the crux for me, adapting to what is needed now to get the best fun, not necessarily the best fish?
Your revelation in using 15lb line on a light rod was a bit of a bombshell...but I see your logic, smaller rivers need some persuasion with chub heading for cover.
Was watching a Duncan Charman vid last night he was Chub fishing the Thames, and his gear was 1.75 barbel rod 10lb mono...small cage feeders, liquidised bread,and flake on 6 hook, but FREE running feeders so no resistance for Chub.
It's the sort of set up we used in the past as kid's, but somehow we got our heads turned by fancy rigs, what's the Maxim?.
K.I.S.S😊
 
It sounds wrong Neil but it works
I did check with Mark Tunley and he does the same
I got it as a chub rod and just thought I’d try it out on barbel but got addicted , but it also does exactly what I want with the bigger chub which is stop them getting to the snags
 
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