Peter Brownbill
Senior Member
Wanted to target barbel and possibly carp on the pin, any ideas of what’s best breaking strain etc , cheers
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Barbel on centrepin what LB line
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Chris Thomson
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12lb Shimano technium
Bill Walford
Senior Member & Supporter
Same as you would use on your fixed spool for the prevailing conditions Peter, you’ll have the best “drag” possible...your thumb 
Graham Elliott
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10.2 silstar match team
Mark Nicholls
Senior Member & Supporter
Love using braid on the pin (ledgering) - personally Powerpro Super 8 slick (v2 if you can get it), 10 - 15kg.
Some braids are not advised fishing on rocky bottoms but I've found abrasion resistance good on this.
Doesn't get any better than playing a barbel on pin n braid
Some braids are not advised fishing on rocky bottoms but I've found abrasion resistance good on this.
Doesn't get any better than playing a barbel on pin n braid
Joe Winstanley
Senior Member & Supporter
Love using braid on the pin (ledgering) - personally Powerpro Super 8 slick (v2 if you can get it), 10 - 15kg.
Some braids are not advised fishing on rocky bottoms but I've found abrasion resistance good on this.
Doesn't get any better than playing a barbel on pin n braid
What diameter is that Mark?
I'm giving serious thought to switching over to braid on my barbel reels this season. The more I use braid for other applications the more keep asking myself why it isn't on my barbel set up. Is the super-slick a marked improvement on the basic moss green power pro?
Cheers,
Joe
I've used Moss Green Power Pro, 20lb, on my pins for over 15 years now, for all of my barbel fishing. Best move I ever made.
Terry Simner
Senior Member & Supporter
I used to use PowerPro, then moved to Super 8 Slick, which is much smoother. Since then I've moved onto the much less expensive 'Spectra' braid. Unfortunately the name 'Spectra' appears to be a generic, so Spectras can/could/do vary. The one I settled on (500m spools) was called Spectra extreme Braid, which is said to be 30lb bs and 0.26mm. I checked and triple checked it and would say 24lb bs is nearer to the mark.
Joe Winstanley
Senior Member & Supporter
Is the UK 20lb which is 0.15 diameter or the US 20lb which is 0.23 ?
I find Powerpro strength ratings bit confusing.
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Terry Simner
Senior Member & Supporter
If you find the strength rating confusing wait til you look at the actual diameters of the line. God knows where they get their figures from, but accurate they ain't.
Mark Nicholls
Senior Member & Supporter
The 10kg is quoted as 0.15, the 15kg 0.19 although I couldn't verify that Joe.
Very different to the basic Powerpro (which I used for years) - much smoother, almost feels coated, which I think is down to the 8 weave material.
I really like it - only slight criticism being that I have had the colour washing out a little over time.
Dave Brooksbank
Senior Member & Supporter
What literally 15 years!! My question is how often do you Braid users renew your line.
Every two seasons, or sometimes less often. Of course it depends on how often one fishes, and what sort of rivers one fishes.
Richard Parsons
Senior Member
I've had some super 8 slick on one of my pins for five seasons, and it's still going strong. The colour has lightened slightly (I use timber brown), but it's not a problem. I use 30lb bs, which has the same diameter as 8lb mono. It's also very robust. You need a soft-actioned rod or strong hooks (preferably both) tp prevent hook pulls.
I usually source from here but they're currently out of stock of the 30lb.
I usually source from here but they're currently out of stock of the 30lb.
Wayne Botley
Senior Member & Supporter
Has anyone used sufix 832 braid, I brought a spool a couple of season's ago but never got round to using it
Joe Winstanley
Senior Member & Supporter
I found this useful table on Dave Lumb’s website regarding standard Moss Green PowerPro. It seems the US lbs’ reflects knotted strength.
I’ve got a spool of 0.28mm in Moss Green so I think i’ll try that on my heavier (Trent) set-up, and the maybe the 0.23 on my small river set-up or the super slick 8 equivalent.
I’ve got a spool of 0.28mm in Moss Green so I think i’ll try that on my heavier (Trent) set-up, and the maybe the 0.23 on my small river set-up or the super slick 8 equivalent.
Diam. (mm) | US | UK/EU |
0.15 | 10lb/9kg | 9kg/20lb |
0.23 | 20lb/15kg | 15kg/33lb |
0.28 | 30lb/20kg | 20kg/44lb |
0.36 | 50lb/30kg | 30kg/66lb |
0.41 | 65lb/40kg | 40kg/88lb |
0.43 | 80lb/48kg | 48kg/106lb |
0.46 | 100lb/55kg | 55kg/121lb |
Used both 832 and Pro 8 for barbel fishing - no real problems but tend to use the Green Pro 8.
Used Power Pro for many years and no complaints - just fancied a change.
Cheers
Bob
Joe
My box says 0.23 dia, 9kg, 20lb test - there's always been confusion
Not the easiest thing to measure, but with my digital verniers slowly closing the jaws so as not to compress the braid the readings were in the range 0.25 to 0.29
BUT closing the jaws more vigourously the reading was indeed 0.23
Terry Simner
Senior Member & Supporter
Re. knot strength vs. 'breaking strain' (straight pull)... I wouldn't expect much difference between the two when it comes to braid, which doesn't 'crimp'. I always test the braid I use, and I find the break doesn't often occur at a knot. The most accurately quoted B/S I've found is for Slick 8 (>95%), whilst some of the Chinese stuff can be <60%.
Joe Winstanley
Senior Member & Supporter
Joe
My box says 0.23 dia, 9kg, 20lb test - there's always been confusion
Not the easiest thing to measure, but with my digital verniers slowly closing the jaws so as not to compress the braid the readings were in the range 0.25 to 0.29
BUT closing the jaws more vigourously the reading was indeed 0.23
So it's best to ignore the stated breaking strains and just go with the stated diameter then.
I've been using the 0.36 and 0.41 for pike, not changed the line for a good few seasons, but I does seem like it can develop a slight oval shape with use - so that might explain the readings on your verniers?