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Gamma POLYFLEX High Performance Copolymer Line

Terry Simner

Terry Simner

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Has anyone on here had any experience of using this line (as sold by Pallatrax). I'm interested in the abrasion resistance vs limpness/softness perspective, as most/all lines with high abrasion resistance tend to be quite 'springy'.

HAPPY CHRISTMAS, ONE & ALL!!​
 
I think I’ve read that Martin James MBE, uses this line for chub fishing? I believe he is on the forum so maybe he could help? From what it says on the palatrax website it sounds like a great line, strength to diameter etc, will be interesting if anyone can shed some light on it?
 
Having looked at the Pallatrax website the Gamma line I was referring to is no longer available and not the Polyflex line you mention, Terry, my mistake.
 
Terry Simner said:
Has anyone on here had any experience of using this line (as sold by Pallatrax). I'm interested in the abrasion resistance vs limpness/softness perspective, as most/all lines with high abrasion resistance tend to be quite 'springy'.

HAPPY CHRISTMAS, ONE & ALL!!​
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Is it a monofilament line Terry or something different?
 
I've been using Gamma copolymer line in the clear (no longer available from Pallatrax who only now do the green) for years and have never had a problem.. It's not springy and because of its make up quite thin for its breaking strain and abrasion resistance is fine... I use 6lb for my chub fishing and 8lb for most of my barbel fishing only upping the BS when fishing the Trent but don't use Gamma on the Trent. I like a clear line so now pallatrax have stopped selling it when I run out of the stock I've got I'll have to find something else unless I want to order from the USA..
 
Richard Isaacs said:
Is it a monofilament line Terry or something different?
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Dunno Rich ...it's seems a bit of an oddball really. It seems to be highly rated by US bass fishermen and the only negative comment I've found is from one reviewer who said it was 'a bit stretchy', which could lead you to believe that it's most probably not a pre-stretched mono. But maybe that guy usually used only braid and was comparing it to that. It's described 'merely' as a "co-polymer" so presumably it's not fluorocarbon coated.
For a mono it's mid-high priced at ~£36/900m, so the claims for it are either just bull (i.e. a line that only gets bought once as it's found to be "nothing special") or it is a really good blend of monomers and polymers. They say that the copolymer is "patented" so???. I did study polymer chemistry but only to diploma level, and I did spent years in and out of a polymer plant, but that was dealing mostly with acrylics. But from that I do know that in polymer chemistry there are 'sweet spots' (basically really good 'recipes') e.g. the topcoat on Rolls Royce cars was the same as on Vauxhalls).
I do know for certain that since Dupont came out with Nylon 66 in 1927 there's been some excellent iterations of nylon as copolymers, including some of those used in copolymer fishing lines. That is, lines that stand out from the rest. For example Silstar Match Team line, which is quite an oddball (IMO) and makes a great hooklink, if you can get the know perfect 😉 So there are 'sweet spots', and I guess there's only one sure way to find out whether or not they've found one in 'Polyflex'.
Dunno, I'll buy some eh, and get back to y'all. 👍
 
Terry Simner said:
Dunno Rich ...it's seems a bit of an oddball really. It seems to be highly rated by US bass fishermen and the only negative comment I've found is from one reviewer who said it was 'a bit stretchy', which could lead you to believe that it's most probably not a pre-stretched mono. But maybe that guy usually used only braid and was comparing it to that. It's described 'merely' as a "co-polymer" so presumably it's not fluorocarbon coated.
For a mono it's mid-high priced at ~£36/900m, so the claims for it are either just bull (i.e. a line that only gets bought once as it's found to be "nothing special") or it is a really good blend of monomers and polymers. They say that the copolymer is "patented" so???. I did study polymer chemistry but only to diploma level, and I did spent years in and out of a polymer plant, but that was dealing mostly with acrylics. But from that I do know that in polymer chemistry there are 'sweet spots' (basically really good 'recipes') e.g. the topcoat on Rolls Royce cars was the same as on Vauxhalls).
I do know for certain that since Dupont came out with Nylon 66 in 1927 there's been some excellent iterations of nylon as copolymers, including some of those used in copolymer fishing lines. That is, lines that stand out from the rest. For example Silstar Match Team line, which is quite an oddball (IMO) and makes a great hooklink, if you can get the know perfect 😉 So there are 'sweet spots', and I guess there's only one sure way to find out whether or not they've found one in 'Polyflex'.
Dunno, I'll buy some eh, and get back to y'all. 👍
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Certainly know your stuff there mate. I’d be interested to hear the findings you get from trying it out. Some good old home abrasive tests would be good against wood or bricks to see how it fairs against the best like gr60 Berkeley big game and daiwa sensor
 
Copied from the Pallatrax website;
WE ADVISE THAT YOU BUY BY DIAMETER, AND NOT BREAKING STRAIN, AS YOUR CURRENT 15LB B/S WILL PROBABLY HAVE A SIMILAR LINE DIAMETER TO GAMMA 0.33.
Would anyone else consider this advice to be slightly at odds with the supposed benefits that an amazing proprietary manufacturing process brings?
 
It looks like comparing apples and pears, rather than apples and apples.

The Gardner copolymer lines are great and significantly underrated for breaking strain. It looks as if the Gamma version is simply a truer (my assumption) rating. That could be construed as ‘clever’ marketing……

I use several Gardner lines (and having tried Gamma lines, amongst others ) and am happy to carry on doing so.
 
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