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I used the last of my Sticky Baits Elip
Why pre drilled?
So many people have put the Hinders elips pellets down on here.
I've used then for 25+ years.
Yes, their shape changed a few years back from flat to cylindrical.
They are superb still.
Cut a little flat on 2 pellets and glue them back to back.
I remember drilling them myself 100 years ago and sitting there fishing with no bait on.....
Its not difficult to fish effectively without pre drilled pellets!
145 barbel this season, mostly on elips.
1 trip to the Trent for a few days and the rest on the Hampshire Avon.
Similar, but I use a small coarse file. You can put two flat sides on a single large elips pellet in seconds.

As an aside, I’ve also just found a pot of elliptical shaped elips in the bottom of my freezer, which has made my day 🙂
 
@Nigel Whittingham I take yout point, as with all posts on here it's only a matter of my own personal experience which I grant you is subjective. I have trialled both Halibut pellets and red Krill pellets same size alternating between upstream and downstream rods during the same sessions and found the red Krill to bring better results for the way I fish on predominantly the Middle Trent. Whether they are preferred due to colour or scent/taste I wouldn't even try to guess at. It could simply be a matter that Halibut has become overused on the stretches I fish and therefore the fish have become weary of them, who knows ?

I wouldn't exclude Halibut pellets if my standard approach with Krill & Robin Red pellets wasn't working. It's taken a number of years for me to learn that if something isn't working then make a change.
 
Why pre drilled?
So many people have put the Hinders elips pellets down on here.
I've used then for 25+ years.
Yes, their shape changed a few years back from flat to cylindrical.
They are superb still.
Cut a little flat on 2 pellets and glue them back to back.
I remember drilling them myself 100 years ago and sitting there fishing with no bait on.....
Its not difficult to fish effectively without pre drilled pellets!
145 barbel this season, mostly on elips.
1 trip to the Trent for a few days and the rest on the Hampshire Avon.
I agree that a super glued pellet will stay on a lot longer I even glue the dynamite pre drilled ones when I want to use a single bait but more often its 2 elips back to back as John says they are brilliant pellets 👌🏻
 
@Nigel Whittingham I take yout point, as with all posts on here it's only a matter of my own personal experience which I grant you is subjective. I have trialled both Halibut pellets and red Krill pellets same size alternating between upstream and downstream rods during the same sessions and found the red Krill to bring better results for the way I fish on predominantly the Middle Trent. Whether they are preferred due to colour or scent/taste I wouldn't even try to guess at. It could simply be a matter that Halibut has become overused on the stretches I fish and therefore the fish have become weary of them, who knows ?

I wouldn't exclude Halibut pellets if my standard approach with Krill & Robin Red pellets wasn't working. It's taken a number of years for me to learn that if something isn't working then make a change.
With regards to the red krill pellets be wary.
95% of the red krill pellets you will buy are just coated in red krill.
Throw a few in the edge and watch them turn from a nice dark red colour to a pale colour within 20 minutes
 
Why pre drilled?
So many people have put the Hinders elips pellets down on here.
I've used then for 25+ years.
Yes, their shape changed a few years back from flat to cylindrical.
They are superb still.
Cut a little flat on 2 pellets and glue them back to back.
I remember drilling them myself 100 years ago and sitting there fishing with no bait on.....
Its not difficult to fish effectively without pre drilled pellets!
145 barbel this season, mostly on elips.
1 trip to the Trent for a few days and the rest on the Hampshire Avon.
I do agree John. I bought some and they were pre-drilled. I'm not too bothered either way really. In the past I have literally covered a 12mm elipse pellet in superglue to avoid it being whittled away by small fish and still caught big Barbel on it. I use other pellets fir no other reason than to avoid ordering online. I just pick them up when I go in a shop. Can't argue with your results John. 🎣
 
Talking of Krill, I'm sure someone told me that some krill additives like a certain krill powder I was given once is just a cheese powder. I wouldn't be surprised.
 
Aren't they all made by either Coppens or Skrettings for the fish farm market? If so does it really matter which reseller you choose?
I guess that some resellers add a little extra flavour for their own USP. Does that actually make much difference? Only the fish know for sure.
May I come in and "throw a cat amoungst the pigeons". All pellets are made for the food industry, therefore by association; they shouldn't be used in any natural watercourse. The scientists who made them for fish feeding, did so to decrease sexual reproduction and to increase weight for profit. It has been stated that it is harmful to use pellets full stop. And on top of that much of the ingrediants come from third world countries and the fishmeals are contaminated with PCB'S (Forever Chemicals).
SO, may the slagging begin😅
 
Now you've done it! 😅 You could argue about why we are feeding cyprinids high protein, oil rich food in the first place when their systems are not designed to cope with it. 👍
 
Another vote for the Severn valley ambush pellets. Actually all my fish this season have came on a 10mm ambush pellet (although it's not many fish😂)
 
I’ve used the 8mm 3ft twitch pellets for a couple of seasons now on the Trent. Caught loads on them, both the lamprey and herring, and D-liver. This season I’ve started using their redemption boilies, so I also got some matching pellets and have caught on those both times I’ve been out so far.

I did like the Dynamite Source pellets as well, and did well on them a few years ago.



I still have a partially used pot of the sonubaits spicy sausage hookbaits. They smell perfect and I was always super confident using them, but never had a single fish on them. No idea why!
That's the same experience I've had. The sonubaits spicy sausage not a single fish, but quite a few on the blood worm. The fish in my avatar was on one. I don't use pellet much these days.
 
Personally I think if your using halibut pellets then halibut pellets are halibut pellets no matter which brand you buy. Never noticed any difference in catch rates whatever brand I use. I tend to use robin red pellets the last few years but more often than not I’ll use a big chunk of meat anyway as I’m trying to single out the bigger fish and can get hammered by bream on pellets. I do like the cheesy garlic dynamite baits I think small pellets to use in pva mesh to go with my hook bait if I am using pellet cause they absolutely stink. Done well on them but be warned they will stink your house out if your making your bags up at home lol
 
My fishing buddy and I once vowed never to use sonubaits again , having both had very poor results on their eagerly awaited new baits aimed at the barbel angler..
This was about 8 it 9 yrs ago.
So we emptied all our pellets hemp n hali crush , oozing this and that stuff, after a very poor day on the wye.
Next day armed with good old dynamite baits we emptied it!!!.
2 seasons ago we had a challenge...
Buy each other a pot of wafters and a bag of boilles and fished a huge beach one rod on each other's tripod.
Guess what I got my mate???.
He had bugger all and I caught 11 barbell on raspberry plume boilies!!!!!
 
Isn't it all in our heads that one brand will out fish the other?

Sonubaits Spicy Sausage, doesn't smell a million miles away from Dynamites Meat furter. And the AD own brand meaty ground bait smells pretty much the same as Meat Furter.

A Halibut pellet is a Halibut pellet, no matter what bag it came out from.
 
I too view all 'Halibut Pellets' as a generic, basically a fish meal 'starter base'. And whilst that base can be used 'as is' and will catch you fish, I see it as there to be flavoured. That base is to be a carrier of flavour. I take a base pellet (a HP) and glug it with a flavour, then make a wrap of the same flavour.
The only significant variable I see in basic halibut pellets is softening rate, and I've found large variation in them through home testing (a glass of water is all you need). Obviously, the smaller pellet you use, the more important it is to know softening rate ....especially if you're using drilled small pellets and casting out infrequently (some drilled 8mm pellets are more or less dissolved in 30 mins.)
The hardest pellets I've found are/were Bait-Tech Krill, but these (I believe) were only ever available in 14mm. I've got stock and I still use them, but unfortunately they're no longer available. They're a strange one as they're red, called 'Krill', but don't smell much like any other commercial krill products. But then maybe with many products we are led to think ...the stronger they smell, the better quality they are.
When we say a bait's "flavour" we tend to go by/think of its smell, but smell and taste (no, I'm not gonna get into the "can fish smell?" question :) ) are different senses. Smell does influence taste ....but this is leading down a rabbit hole so ....
And carpers often push subtlety, so????
So ....dunno :)
 
I always find this interesting ‘i have found them to outfish Halibut 2-1’
By that evidence, they must be twice as good however, i tried them for a season & didn’t really do very well. Did slightly better on the Hinders elipse but noticeably better on Dynamite Halibut.
Everyone has a favourite that outfishes someone elses favourite so who’s right?
Is it just luck? Barbels ‘taste’ in different areas? confidence in what your using? the rig?
I personally think they will eat anything and it comes down to confidence which breeds success but could be wrong of course.
I also think ‘chasing’ the best bait or copying someone elses success doesn’t bring your own success although can generate your own ideas.
There are obviously ‘better’ baits that become classics (pellets, boilies, luncheon meat etc) but how much effort is put into another bait before we revert back to what works?
A couple of sessions without a bite is usually more than enough to put me off and write a bait off for good but would i have caught on a more favoured bait anyway??
It can be a nightmare choosing a bait to rely on and a few catches is usually enough to make you think your on to something and it soon becomes a top bait you believe in.
Listen to people, take notice of whats happening (especially locally) but do what you think is right, but make your own mistakes & find your own favourites is the way to go.
I know really good anglers that cant afford ‘decent’ bait (what is that?) but take places apart with worms, bread paste etc then there anglers that catch very little even after they have bought success by spending £100’s on top baits…..that says it’s more down to skill, location and effort than bait but what if th poorer angler could afford the expensive stuff? Would he catch even more?? God knows!!
Totally agree with you here, and I'd also add that if your fishing popular & busy waters the choice of bait does have a factor on success, as there's more bait going in giving fish too much choice. So getting on the right flavour & brand I think plays a crucial role here (could be wrong)

I'm fishing a long stretch of water that involves a lot of roving, but have found because no one else can be bothered to do the walks, my bait is being more readily accepted, because no one else is having any influence on what's going in. 🤔
 
I also use the Severn Valley Ambush ones, but more often than not in 10mm. Sometimes I'll use the 8mm or 14/16mm (if bream are about) either in ambush or pellet O's. I never use bands, a pellet within a band can ping off, and a band within the drilled hole always tends to split it, so always lasso my pellets - they never come off, means you can leave one out for more than an hour if need be.
Are you using mono hooklengths for your lasso approach John? It's something I've been meaning to try. 😊

Not sure which pattern of Hook are better suited to Pellet fishing? If I didn't know any better I suppose it would be wide grapes? 🤣
 
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